Curse

HawkofStorms · Feb 27, 2007, 05:13 AM // 05:13

Honestly, the fact that this guy is a representative of a.net disgusts me.

Cherng Butter · Feb 27, 2007, 05:30 AM // 05:30

If health regeneration turns off pve monsters, wouldn't succor be a better investment for an adrenaline warrior?

Off topic, but I still haven't unlocked mending for my account, after 5 campaign completions, 275k faction...haha. oh well

arcanemacabre · Feb 27, 2007, 05:31 AM // 05:31

I don't know about you guys, but this part really disgusted me:

Quote:

Originally Posted by State of the Game

PvEers are a bunch of f***ing noobs.

Well, not word-for-word what it said... but paraphrased.

Redfeather1975 · Feb 27, 2007, 06:03 AM // 06:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherng Butter

If health regeneration turns off pve monsters, wouldn't succor be a better investment for an adrenaline warrior?

Off topic, but I still haven't unlocked mending for my account, after 5 campaign completions, 275k faction...haha. oh well

I think the warrior should want the monsters to attack them instead. So I'm guessing a warrior wouldn't want to use either. I'm just guessing here, I really don't know about all this to well.

divinechancellor · Feb 27, 2007, 06:56 AM // 06:56

I use mending for 2 builds: 55 monk and 55 BiP (with protective bond :])
So ive found use for mending and the over nerfed protective bond

Tea Girl · Feb 27, 2007, 07:40 AM // 07:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

Honestly, the fact that this guy is a representative of a.net disgusts me.

Ummm care to elaborate?

I don't see any problems for ANYONE to voice their observations of the game. Mending is a very common skill for many pve builds. I.E. Wammo runners, 55 monks... etc... Well, actully u can run around in 70% of pve areas (most of them are low level areas) with Mending.

I am not saying Mending is the best uberpwnage pve skill ever, but alot of people use it in pve despite of its limitations. But as he pointed out, Mending is not a very useful/valuable skill in PVP. It's just a comparsion of two different scenarios and there is nothing wrong with it. Why are you so offended by it? O.o

Haggard · Feb 27, 2007, 08:15 AM // 08:15

OK, I'm not saying it's useless. But by no stretch of the imagination is it the most useful skill in PvE, nor does any build 'rely' on it anymore than the other skills.

Perkunas · Feb 27, 2007, 08:16 AM // 08:16

It is odd that I see so many people bashing Mending, when several builds listed on the tested and 'approved by the community' lists have mending. Either Mending does good, or the builds are out of date, due to 'nerfing'.

Just an observation.

Thom Bangalter · Feb 27, 2007, 08:19 AM // 08:19

I've never approved any build with mending. Unless you're talking about wiki, in which case, all the vetted builds are horrible.

Skuld · Feb 27, 2007, 08:28 AM // 08:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thom Bangalter

I've never approved any build with mending. Unless you're talking about wiki, in which case, all the vetted builds are horrible.

Yes.

And the article fails.

zwei2stein · Feb 27, 2007, 08:54 AM // 08:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redfeather1975

I think the warrior should want the monsters to attack them instead. So I'm guessing a warrior wouldn't want to use either. I'm just guessing here, I really don't know about all this to well.

Succor both monks ... bingo (its target other ally anyway ...)

If YOU do not need energy, you can afford it.

Avarre · Feb 27, 2007, 09:04 AM // 09:04

Regardless of the terminology, promoting mending to newer players by saying it is 'hailed' as such is giving the wrong examples and lessons to new players - the most important factor in an online game - and does not serve to help them improve.

Then again, given the track record of PvP articles, I suppose this should have been expected.

Etta · Feb 27, 2007, 09:07 AM // 09:07

Is it April Fool already?

glountz · Feb 27, 2007, 09:14 AM // 09:14

For the same attribute point dispense (8), Mystic regeneration is so much better.

Kuldebar Valiturus · Feb 27, 2007, 09:42 AM // 09:42

The drama reeks.

Talk about people that lack any perspective.

Talk about overreaction and outright spitefulness.

Quote:

The following are some skills I see constantly in Hero Battles and Random Arenas, almost always on the losing team. Most of them are useful in PvE, but they just don't work as well against human opponents.

It is a one page article that highlights SOME common skill bar pitfalls. It isn't the Encylopedia Galactica and it isn't meant to represent the totality of human civilization and thought. It's an article.

The author states his purpose and scope:

Quote:

In this article I'll try to point out the most common mistakes PvE players make when trying PvP, as well as basic concepts a lot of beginner players don't immediately grasp.

If you want to take a sentence here or there in the article without considering the context of the whole, then don't ever expect to win any reading comprehension awards anytime soon.

Some of you are so rabidly foaming at the mouth that your pettiness at picking fights knows no bounds.

Once people start acting fanatical there is simply no room left for reason or civil discussion.

manitoba1073 · Feb 27, 2007, 09:50 AM // 09:50

come on we all know archane echo mending rules all

Lonesamurai · Feb 27, 2007, 11:17 AM // 11:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by arcanemacabre

I don't know about you guys, but this part really disgusted me:

Well, not word-for-word what it said... but paraphrased.

hahahaha, best post so far!

Oh and does anyone else have a strong urge to punch the guy that wrote it in the face?

So, if you see this man:

Adam Sunstrom

in the street, in the pub, or you break into his house...

punch him in the face for me

platinumfoil · Feb 27, 2007, 12:21 PM // 12:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lonesamurai

Oh and does anyone else have a strong urge to punch the guy that wrote it in the face?
punch him in the face for me

Kinda sad to see someone write this kinda response to an article,
makes me wonder if people may punch you if they disagree with you.
But best part, it appears u asking for other people to do it for you.

Do the GW-community a favour and uninstall.

Some might also wanna learn the meaning of "many" oppose to all and most, and read the actual thread,
instead of goin by the OP's opening title

on topic:
As any other skill, mending has its pro's and cons in dif situations,
my 3 1/2 ct's

Kuldebar Valiturus · Feb 27, 2007, 01:27 PM // 13:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lonesamurai

hahahaha, best post so far!

Oh and does anyone else have a strong urge to punch the guy that wrote it in the face?

So, if you see this man:

Adam Sunstrom

in the street, in the pub, or you break into his house...

punch him in the face for me

Amazing.

Such passion for something as mundane as an introduction article about basic PvP concepts! Indeed, the face that launched a thousand posts!

I'd hate to see how emotions would be aroused to full flaming drama over such things as coed dancing, or ankle length dresses. <gasp>

I haven't seen any posts yet in this thread that actually establishes fault with what the article writer said.

There's plenty of people making up things about what he said and jumping to tortured conclusions via their own rabid assumptions. And there's plenty of people treating ANet like they themselves were bent over and roughly used by every employee in the company. The spectacle is very entertaining but of dubious educational value.

It's a good thing these forums don't actually represent what most Guild Wars players think. We are very vocal here, but we don't actually own the majority share of reality.

You realize that Adam S. probably has access to ANet's skill usage stats? And that he might actually be basing his statements on actual facts instead of pulling them out of his posterior like so many posters on this forum are apt to do?

Getting all out of sorts about an article aimed at novice PvP'ers just indicates a reason why most people don't invest much time in the Guild Wars in-game community.

Pointing your fingers and laughing at people may make you feel superior, but it certainly doesn't make you of any actual benefit to other people.

To all those experts out there, being so turgidly full of wisdom and insight, go write your own advice column, eh?

Admittedly, I don't think that's what you are full of at all.

Lonesamurai · Feb 27, 2007, 01:45 PM // 13:45

His article is in no way helpful tot he community, nor does it reflect anything to do with the game...

As has been said above, it blatantly refers to the PvE population as being a bunch of noobs and although there is indeed a large population of idiots in the Guild Wars community, blatantly outing them like that on the Guild wars main website is the most callous and stupid thing i have ever seen!

FFS, people wonder why he game is getting boring and people are leaving it, then they put this drivel on the main site? If i wasn't working my ass off for the community (of which, hopefully, we will see happening soon), I would indeed quit and not come back

EDIT ~ besides, you obviously didn't see the humorous side of my post and for that I pity you for taking it seriously

besides, how many times have you seen a warrior using mending to counteract a vampiric weapon? quite a lot actually and its just stupid!